2012/05/14

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What must Palestinians do to get your attention?

 Here's the beginning of the article:

«Dear Western leaders and the international media, what must a Palestinian do to get your attention?
I ask this question as I recall watching Gandhi with my parents when I was a teenager. With the confident zeal of an adolescent, I vividly recall telling my father (born in Palestine in 1945 and dispossessed of his land in 1967) that what the Palestinians needed to do to draw international attention to their plight was simply go on a mass hunger strike.
It seemed to me, at the time, that there was only one moral and inevitable response to non-violent resistance to injustice: action in defence of the hunger strikers.»

Comment: Misplaced optimism; for some strange reason, effectively the 'Western' world listens to Zionist-apologists' lies and ignores both Zionist-crimes and Palestinian suffering. Ignoring crimes, especially crimes underway, is itself criminal.

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aletheia :

15 May 2012 7:10:35pm
Claim: "a people's ability to declare independence as a unilateral act..."

I'd be interested to see any justification in support of this 'principal' in the Palestinian Nakba frame.

Consider the burglar/home-invasion scenario:

A group of 'out of towners' move in to a block of flats, ejecting most hapless residents (erstwhile legal owner/occupiers = ELO/Os), killing more than just a few on the way, then declare themselves independent of the police, the law, all morality not to mention good sense - as a unilateral act.

Who would accept that, let alone believe that the burglar/home-invaders now had any rights? (i.e. such crims have *no* rights to occupy, certainly *no* rights to defend - improperly alienated = stolen land/property.)

The claim doesn't pass the 'giggle-test.'

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Salaam Shalom Peace :

15 May 2012 6:20:32pm
So you think its all isreal's fault?

Nothing todo with decades of attempted genocides by the Arab nations and Palestinian terrorism and no blame lies at the hands of Yasser Arafat or Hamas or Islamic Jihad? Really?

You might want to check in with reality sometimes, dude.
    • aletheia :

      15 May 2012 9:01:08pm
      "You might want to check in with reality sometimes, dude."

      OK; lets consider: "Nothing todo with decades of attempted genocides by the Arab nations and Palestinian terrorism and no blame lies at the hands of Yasser Arafat or Hamas or Islamic Jihad? Really?"

      1. Item; Herzl(1897): "Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor [Palestinians] must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."

      2. Item; Jabotinsky(~1923): "No native population would stomach the intrusion of another nation into their territory. So the gloves have to be off. Unremitting force is viewed as the only answer to Arab objections to Zionist control of the territory."

      3. Item; Ben-Gurion(1936-39): "“We must see the situation for what it is. ... But in the political field we are the attackers and the Arabs are those defending themselves. They are living in the country and own the land, ..."

      Dude, one side are hapless ELO/Os = erstwhile legal owner/occupiers (right of self-defence), the other side aggressive, invading attackers. You may now try again to work out as to with whom the fault lies.
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Sanon :

15 May 2012 2:51:00pm
Very good point, Eligius4917. A future generation one day will ask, why is this happening? Why is Israel allowed to get away with this? Justice, given enough time, will eventually prevail.
    • Salaam Shalom Peace :

      15 May 2012 6:09:55pm
      Why is Israel able to get away with *what* Sanon?

      Existing?

      Protecting its innocent civilians from attack by rockets and bombs and crazy Jihadists?

      Do you honestly think that justice and law is only on your side of this issue? Really?
        • aletheia :

          16 May 2012 8:55:19am
          Abandon hope - all ye who build their houses upon sand - err, I mean those who comment from a somewhat uninformed position. It's all too easy to blame Palestinians for shooting primitive rockets into Israel - BUT since Israel squats on improperly alienated Palestinian land/property, AND the world so far fails to remedy that original Z-crime THEN rockets = must do something - as an alternative to accepting violent theft of almost an entire country. Yesterday was Nakba day, only one day of 365¼ when hapless Palestinians mourn their dispossession; those who would say that Israel 'won' a civil war fail to appreciate that the Zionists were (still are) aggressive invaders - of the Nuremberg-class. Proof of this is not hard to find, see Plan Dalet and associated massacres like Deir Yassin, and so many other terrorist outrages like the King David Hotel bombing. It doesn't do to sweep this (criminal!) history under the carpet, then trying to claim 'holier than them.' Any un-remediated crime scene stands as a denial of justice - IF just peace ever wanted THEN recall (and implement) right of return/revest and/or pay fully acceptable reparations and recompense (RoR+RaR) + say a sincere "Sorry!"
Comment: Israel asserts a 'right to exist' - while squatting on improperly dispossessed land/property, then demands a 'right to defend' what does not belong to them, demands a) to be recognised and b) that the mostly Palestinian ELO/Os (and/or their heirs & successors) accept peace only on Z-terms, which implies surrender and loss of the Palestinian homelands. Who, in their right mind, would ever agree to that? Meanwhile, the Zs' mass-murdering for soil continues, why doesn't the UN/world stop it?

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